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As Kobe Bryant once said, “There is power in understanding the journey of others to help create your own.” That’s why the Learning Leader Show exists—to get together and understand the journeys of successful leaders, so that we can better understand our own. This show is full of stories told by world-class leaders. Personal stories of successes, failures, and lessons learned along the way. Our guests come from diverse backgrounds—some are best-selling authors, others are genius entrepreneurs, and one even made a million dollars wearing t-shirts for a year. My role in this endeavor is to talk to the smartest, most creative, always-learning leaders in the world so that we can learn from them as we each create our own journeys.
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Jun 18, 2017

Episode 210: Noah Kagan - How To Start A Business

Noah Kagan was the #30 employee at Facebook (started there in 2005), and the #4 employee at Mint.com.  He came up with the idea of real-time updates and executed with one engineer (Mark Slee) at Facebook.  He is now the Chief Sumo at Sumo.com (A domain in which he paid $1.5m to own.  We discussed why on this episode).

This episode is different than most in that it was more conversational, and less interview.  There was real-time coaching, and off the cuff conversation about how I should progress The Learning Leader.  If you are uncomfortable with creative use of the English Language (re: use of curse words), then skip this episode.  If not, I think you'll really like it.

"You shouldn't get a job... You should get a career."

Show Notes:

  • Sustained Excellence = Getting feedback from professionals
    • Noah hired pros from NPR to review his interview transcripts.
    • "Most of the time we have too much.  Need to edit it down."
  • How to create a narrative -- The NPA producer changed his life
  • Employees -- "They are not my people. They are people I work with. I don't like the word employee."
  • How do you hold others accountable? -- Autonomy, coaching, help when needed.  Hire correctly.
  • "What I'm great at is starting..."
  • How the quest to India changed Noah's life
  • "You'll almost always push hard on the last lap."
  • The impact Mark Zuckerberg had on him when he worked for him at Facebook
  • "When I was at Facebook, there was a singular focus: Growth."
  • "You shouldn't get a job, get a career." -- "I was a cubicle monkey at Intel"
  • Using a journal to plan your day/week/month
  • "Here is a story I've never shared before..."
  • Why you should always ask yourself..."What's exciting for me?"
  • Why you should go on walks with your spouse/significant other
  • Instead of building something in a month, why not build it by Monday? -- Do it quicker than you think possible
    • You need to constantly try and test it out... Don't overthink it.  Will people pay me for this?  Keep evolving
  • Keys to building your audience
  • "Art of The Deal" is a helpful book
  • Noah's salary?  Low 6 figures
  • "Good people don't work for cheap rates"
  • The two ways to scale a business
    • Technology
    • People
  • What Noah learned about vision --
    • Initially didn't believe in it... But he has matured and fully believes in it. "As I've gotten older..."
    • "It's much easier to get what you want when you know what you want."
  • The impact of Noah's Dad dying had on him
    • "I'm much more protective of my time"

"Good people don't ask for cheap rates."

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More Learning:

Episode 078: Kat Cole – From Hooters Waitress To President of Cinnabon

Episode 071: NateBoyer - Green Beret, Texas Football, The NFL

Episode 179: How To Sustain Excellence - The Best Answers From 178 Questions

Episode 107: Simon Sinek – Leadership: It Starts With Why 

Episode edited by the great J Scott Donnell

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